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Luis Gutierrez: Okay well hi everybody and welcome back I hope everyone as well and we’re finishing up now yay our semester.



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Luis Gutierrez: And this is AJ five community policing week 15, so we are moving along and.



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Luis Gutierrez: You know we’re we’re into.



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Luis Gutierrez: Another week of a similar topic to the last couple of weeks we’ve been kind of just building on a lot of different ideas over this semester.



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Luis Gutierrez: If you can recall everything from you know, Sir Robert peels community policing and the police or the public and the public or the police and i’ve introduced you to the 21st century policing Task Force from President Obama, which is a good framework for us to kind of.



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Luis Gutierrez: continue on if you haven’t noticed we follow that that we loosely follow that along throughout this course and you’ll see that next week, we talked about police officer wellness last section of that.



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Luis Gutierrez: So we’re we have build on that we’ve showed you some agencies are doing it right you’ve seen that with regards to community policing and building relationships and partnerships and.



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Luis Gutierrez: So and we’ve seen some ideas that are not so great to you know some ideas.



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Luis Gutierrez: That trickle in such as this, implicit bias, for the last couple weeks in hiring practices and such the things that can can derail us from our goals, and in this week we’re kind of building on that one more time and we’re going into this.



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Luis Gutierrez: topic of really it’s about cultural diversity, cultural diversity in law enforcement and what that looks like and why why that’s important to us in community policing.



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Luis Gutierrez: So I was talking about today so bear with me it’s going to be a longer maybe an hour long we’ll see how it goes as far as our this lecture so take it in pieces if you need to.



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Luis Gutierrez: So i’m going to start with just sharing my screen with the desktop that the yeah the dashboard and what we’ll be discussing this week and what you’ll see you’ll see a video in here.



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Luis Gutierrez: The CA le a clear video there’s also a website for you to go to you’ll see i’ll tell you more about that in a minute and also small videos well.



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Luis Gutierrez: The questions I have for your embedded in my zoom and the zoom presentation, so you need to watch that to be able to get to the questions i’m asking for and so let’s talk about this, this is, you know discussion.



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Luis Gutierrez: it’s worth 10 points, and you know I kind of start with just saying that you know hi everybody for this week’s discussion and assignment.



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Luis Gutierrez: You know, please watch the recorded zoom lecture and this book, I have a little copy of it here for is really what i’ve kind of going off of.



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Luis Gutierrez: This time we’re we’ve left the book, the main book that kind of just talks about community policing and I have some supplement materials i’ve used along the way, and one of them is this really cool book called images of color images of crime.



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Luis Gutierrez: And the questions for discussion are embedded in the PowerPoint and and in the presentation in the PowerPoint.



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Luis Gutierrez: I use this book as a supplemental to this class, you do not need to buy this book okay I just give it portions of it for you to take in.



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Luis Gutierrez: But if you choose to you’ll find it very well thought out short essays on many diverse groups and with regards to race crime in the criminal justice system it’s a really good book and gives you just different perspectives.



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Luis Gutierrez: And that’s pretty much what I always asked for right the topics include racism, poverty and bias, this is just to name a few.



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Luis Gutierrez: And for a Co op to have a chance for it to work for any of this stuff to work and have an impact on a Community these topics have to be in the forefront.



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Luis Gutierrez: So we need to talk about this, you know this is that anything we can shy away from.



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Luis Gutierrez: You know these ideas of racism and poverty and biases and such, we have to tackle them head, first because they’re important in law enforcement, in particular for today’s climate right.



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Luis Gutierrez: We have to get better and i’ve always said that all semester long we we all need to get better and it’s a it’s not just a number, the public or the police and the police or the public and.



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Luis Gutierrez: it’s not just a one way street with both the public needs to get better on their responsibilities and what they need to do, and the police also need to get better in their practices and and and their responsibilities.



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Luis Gutierrez: But you can only do that you can only get better and doing these things and improve by opening your minds and taking in different perspectives.



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Luis Gutierrez: and investing and making an effort right, so this book is a wonderful way to do that it’s a again images of color images of crime i’ve taken parts of it for you to take to look at so.



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Luis Gutierrez: And you will have that embedded in your PowerPoint so let me go ahead and go I have.



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Luis Gutierrez: Goodness I have a lot to talk about us, I see we have.



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Luis Gutierrez: So I wanted to go into that I also wanted to show you and share with you some notes, I have on really what this topic is today about ultimately is this idea of cultural diversity.



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Luis Gutierrez: Okay, cultural diversity and there’s a lot of talk out there and there’s a lot of people that speak on you know diversity equity and inclusion and the importance of that and, certainly, that is.



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Luis Gutierrez: You know, rightfully so a topic that we need to discuss, but I break it down a little bit more specifically into this idea of cultural diversity.



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Luis Gutierrez: And for law enforcement, specific and that my D, you know diversity equity inclusion may involve other other organizations, but with regards to law enforcement.



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Luis Gutierrez: And the Community and that relationship it true, I have broken it down into cultural diversity.



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Luis Gutierrez: And so i’m going to speak on that a little bit and how important that is to have not just culture that to understand and to have cultural competencies.



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Luis Gutierrez: skills that police officers must have to work with other diverse cultures and within our Community so it’s very important for us to make sure we have a thoughts thought process on it.



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Luis Gutierrez: So the reason why you know you look at you think that this criminal justice program our Ministry of Justice programs gives me in our school has a, why is it.



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Luis Gutierrez: In the division our department is in the division of the social and behavioral sciences division so there’s there are department is administration of justice, but we’re in the division of social and behavioral sciences and it purposely in that division because.



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Luis Gutierrez: All all the other disciplines within that social behavioral sciences psychology sociology anthropology they’re they’re all part of.



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Luis Gutierrez: The.



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Luis Gutierrez: it’s about people and it’s about relationships it’s about relations and similarly.



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Luis Gutierrez: The administration of justice is about people.



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Luis Gutierrez: it’s about relationships and partnerships ultimately right positive ones, so we have to you know realize that we are pulling from society it’s a societal issue everything as a society as a whole.



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Luis Gutierrez: it’s the police department it’s not just a police department it’s not just a Community it’s not just said, legislators it’s not just the media.



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Luis Gutierrez: But it’s really society as a whole right, and when you know we’ll talk about that just that cultural diversity that is the surrounds us.



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Luis Gutierrez: Someone said once if a lady if lady Justice have a picture of Lady justice, right here if lady justice standing here with the scales of justice should be balanced right.



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Luis Gutierrez: Equally, she has a blindfold on and, of course, she has the sword in a right hand that yeah you know ministers justice, in essence, but the main thing I wanted lady justice is blind folded.



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Luis Gutierrez: Why are we studying to differences in people.



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Luis Gutierrez: Why is that important for us to talk about the differences in each other, we have with each other if if it should be a blindfolded equal justice to everyone right.



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Luis Gutierrez: But the truth of the matter is there’s cultural diversity and law enforcement needs to have cultural competencies and skills to be able to be work effectively within our communities.



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Luis Gutierrez: And for our communities to work effectively with us.



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Luis Gutierrez: So one of the things I highlighted here with regards to is the kalia cl EA it stands for the Commission of.



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Luis Gutierrez: Accreditation of law enforcement agencies it’s an acronym for that.



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Luis Gutierrez: And it’s an accreditation standard in it’s it’s an international organization that goes to police departments and actually.



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Luis Gutierrez: provides them with an accreditation and says yes, this police department is doing it right.



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Luis Gutierrez: and provide some trainings and standards, I have video or video free to take a look at and also you can take a look at their website, you can even go on to see what maybe California agencies are.



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Luis Gutierrez: are accredited by this organization it’s not easy to do it’s a process that takes many years to accomplish.



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Luis Gutierrez: And really an agency gets turned you know upside down or inside out or right side up, I suppose, when, at the end of this accreditation and it really gives an agency, a lot of different resources later and get ahead of any problems they may have.



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Luis Gutierrez: You know, part of the problem we have with our law enforcement.



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Luis Gutierrez: Community is that we constantly are reactive to things so there’s a problem here and I don’t know if you remember that are you know that game whack a mole where there’s a token pops up you know whack it.



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Luis Gutierrez: You know another mole puffs of your whack it, you know it’s it’s a game used to play in an arcades maybe it’s a little bit too too far back, but.



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Luis Gutierrez: But that’s we do the same thing with problems in our society, something pops up oh we’re going to legislate that will make a new law and that.



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Luis Gutierrez: Will reform that will do this differently and we don’t get ahead of things much.



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Luis Gutierrez: it’s rare that we do it we foresee that there’s going to be a problem here or there’s going to be an issue or some type of conflict or something that we that we may have to deal with.



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Luis Gutierrez: Less get it ahead of it and prepare for it that’s what this accreditation standard does with the clia they go into police agencies and and before you have the Department of Justice investigating your department which has happened mean right now with several departments in the US.



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Luis Gutierrez: and has happened in the past, like, for example, lapd as well.



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Luis Gutierrez: You you get ahead of it through this accreditation process.



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Luis Gutierrez: and part of that is in that process, they also have a section that talks about implicit biases that we talked about over the last couple weeks.



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Luis Gutierrez: With regards to you know our subconscious biases that we have and so as individuals and how that and you train the tree they provide training to police departments.



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Luis Gutierrez: So, in a really goes beyond in this colleague accreditation also goes beyond just talking about topics or the approach traditional things on diversity inclusion equity and biases they really haven’t put a fresh perspective, through this lens of culture.



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Luis Gutierrez: Not law and politics, but the cultural diversity, so yeah, even though it seems it says it seems impossible challenge for police officers.



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Luis Gutierrez: To be both professional within each community they encounter blindfolded like lady justice and simultaneously see every person as an individual, with clear and simultaneously at the same time.



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Luis Gutierrez: See every person is an individual, with a clear current and cultural expectations of law enforcement, in other words, police, the police officer treats everyone the same.



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Luis Gutierrez: Where they’re conducting an arrest based on probable cause a detention, based on a reasonable suspicion or some consensual encounter with a Community Member at the same time.



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Luis Gutierrez: be given that there is, but the same and at the same time, given that there are cultural differences among people.



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Luis Gutierrez: an officer understands different expectations predicts culturally do behave derive behavior and approval, he adapts his or her her approaches to such.



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Luis Gutierrez: This is a combination word that is words word it’s a kind of a middle ground between the legality and legitimacy, yes.



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Luis Gutierrez: police officers have legitimate legality of be at a certain place at a certain time to do certain things or, more importantly, and you’ll see that in the 21st century policing the six pillars.



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Luis Gutierrez: Remember those you should know those pretty good because you’ll need to know that for the final episode.



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Luis Gutierrez: Is this idea of legitimacy and you can look that up as well, and what is legitimate legitimacy in law enforcement it’s about trust that public trust yes you’ve got to have this public trust and, yes, there is a legality that happens right.



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Luis Gutierrez: it’s two sides of the same coin, yes, we can do what we say we’re going to do, you know as far as police officers and what we have the legal rule of law behind us, but there’s also legitimacy part of it.



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Luis Gutierrez: A trust component, that we have to adhere to So how do we get there well there’s some ideas on legitimacy across cultural cultural.



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Luis Gutierrez: and procedural justice is another idea and terminology, to use of how to get some court some cultural competencies across you know each line here, if you will, and really when you look at those there’s it’s really about treating people.



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Luis Gutierrez: with dignity and respect there’s really four things that i’ve identified here respect.



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Luis Gutierrez: list listen.



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Luis Gutierrez: neutrality.



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Luis Gutierrez: Are you bias and do you care.



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Luis Gutierrez: Those are really a view, if you approach any situation with procedural justice in mind, and as a police officer had one place to say well lists contain the situation it’s out that we’re confronted with the words as make sure that things are safe.



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Luis Gutierrez: Are we all safe yes we’re all safe now let’s approach this conflict potentially by listening by being neutral.



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Luis Gutierrez: Good identifying any biases we may have and respect.



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Luis Gutierrez: And we care and going to carry an approach if you do those things you know in in that conflict you’ll see some conflict resolution in this kind of a procedural justice, there is a process in place that if things are safe, secure area is good now let’s tackle the issue.



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Luis Gutierrez: treat people with dignity, respect give people a voice to listen to and allow them and listen displaying a transparency, you know.



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Luis Gutierrez: Are you neutral in the way you’re handling the situation, are there any biases and also, ultimately, do you care are you do you even care about since we do have empathy compassion.



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Luis Gutierrez: right the way I remember, I can remember, years ago, when I was at first supervising police officers, I met with a police chief from.



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Luis Gutierrez: from La la county city, a long time police chief been doing it for for many years reunite and I was having lunch with him and I asked him I said, if you know if I was to.



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Luis Gutierrez: get into you know, like an oral board for a promotion later or something is there anything you could think of that would be kind of a thought of for law enforcement to this is years ago to.



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Luis Gutierrez: You know what would be something unique that you probably others aren’t thinking about with regards to law enforcement and one of the things he mentioned was he was you know what Lou you know they’re The one thing you know I don’t see is a lot of compassion.



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Luis Gutierrez: and needs to be compassionate it’s kind of a word that I didn’t expect from him.



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Luis Gutierrez: And in in compassion, he gave examples of how his officers, you know to that.



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Luis Gutierrez: I won’t get into all these stories of the ways will never get done right, but that was an interesting take from a police chief That was a long time police chief from a while ago, before any of these issues and things of surface, even more so lately right.



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Luis Gutierrez: So, cultural diversity and cultural competency, for a long for some begins with that basic understanding of how a culture is work right.



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Luis Gutierrez: And how it works in essence and the attitude is one of respect and ultimately these cultural competencies are tied to practices of diversity and equity.



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Luis Gutierrez: Then they come that’s the byproduct of having cultural competence skills is this diversity equity and inclusion that happens.



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Luis Gutierrez: there’s really four different ways, and you know i’m not going to go into all of them justice honor harmony reprocess great rest of reciprocity.



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Luis Gutierrez: These are you know given given you know back and forth or that happens within our culture and i’m not going to go into all those, but when you’re talking about conflict management, how do you manage a conflict that you just got dispatched to and you’re a police officer.



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Luis Gutierrez: And, and you have different cultures within your within your community.



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Luis Gutierrez: And you do, you can there’s patterns of such such as justice and honor and harmony and reciprocity, those are things that you need to.



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Luis Gutierrez: To think about so i’m just throwing out some some real high level notes for you just to kind of have some food for thought.



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Luis Gutierrez: Right, so instead of topics of diversity, inclusion and equity or biases you kind of lead, with the subject matter of cultural diversity.



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Luis Gutierrez: Exploring you know what is cultures what, as we know, in essence, what is a culture is learned and shared it’s a pattern in the way, one is raised if it pertains to how we think and how we behave both often outside of our awareness.



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Luis Gutierrez: This lack of awareness is a direct tie to that what we called implicit bias that subconscious bias is that we have.



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Luis Gutierrez: So, how does cultural work it’s an outward observable behaviors outward observable behaviors obvious.



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Luis Gutierrez: it’s obvious to us if it’s outward cooking over behavior below the surface or social institutions, though there are values and core assumptions that we have with each other.



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Luis Gutierrez: That are not as obvious but powerful drivers of what we say and do when you’re talking about conflict resolution and conflict management across these cultural diverse lines they’re really intertwined culture and conflict, it can be within law enforcement.



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Luis Gutierrez: So there’s this you know there’s a system of of topic relationships identity and processes, the way that we kind of get through this conflict management situation, as well as we kind of.



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Luis Gutierrez: interact with each other, but often people in conflict conflict cannot answer the question, but do you really want.



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Luis Gutierrez: When you’re thinking about you know these entities are dealing with the things are happening in the criminal justice field, right now, and you ask different sides, what do you really want.



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Luis Gutierrez: Right and if you break it down into a conflict situation within a management situation within a with a police officer at the scene, a competent are culturally competent police officers able to somewhat predict the expectations of that Community Member should have some you know.



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Luis Gutierrez: empathy for that and know even though that give me any may or may not be able to articulate.



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Luis Gutierrez: What do you want to try to break that down, have you ever had that situation, what do you really want, what do you want from me right, or do you want.



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Luis Gutierrez: Right, what do you want it’s a topic issue that we talked about topic relationships to identity and process it didn’t we’ll talk about more that later, but it’s about it’s a typical for the for us.



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Luis Gutierrez: For united for ours are United States population we generally focus on topic, what do we want.



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Luis Gutierrez: Right.



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Luis Gutierrez: relationship Who are we to each other.



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Luis Gutierrez: That kind of gets to the heart of the matter.



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Luis Gutierrez: involves you know behavior loyalty friendships many Latin American cultures, for example, and other.



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Luis Gutierrez: Half that look for that harmony and reciprocity in our culture’s right.



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Luis Gutierrez: identity, this is a big deal right your identity, who am I, who are you who are we.



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Luis Gutierrez: Right, you see that sometimes within a gang.



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Luis Gutierrez: phenomenon to who am I, or you or we.



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Luis Gutierrez: No matter what the topic is ultimately though people.



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Luis Gutierrez: With regards to identity want expect to be respected, expect to be respected.



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Luis Gutierrez: that’s a big part of someone that you’re working with and have some conflict resolution you needed to get to is this idea of identity.



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Luis Gutierrez: And, of course, you know how do we resolve this, how do we, how do we fix this, how are we going to resolve the situation that we’re in right now.



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Luis Gutierrez: Officers that have core cultural competencies are able to to provide some type of procedures to to resolve those conflicts right, so if a police officer is not aware of how people, the people here she encounters prefers to manage conflict, you need to be aware of such.



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Luis Gutierrez: The officer is kind of left without any resources, you really, this is why an organization like kalia training programs that we have at the Academy or at four in house training later.



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Luis Gutierrez: If you provide officers with this idea of cultural diversity, training that officer can now you know, is not just left to just a wild guess what i’m going to do out here right now.



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Luis Gutierrez: You know, taking a prediction would be a very well, yes for someone who doesn’t have that type of resources so cultural competency or competence equips the officer to know, for example, how our recent immigrant from Latin America might tend to react.



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Luis Gutierrez: You we have someone who just came to this country and they’re from a country that has to say, their their police department your police officers are overly corrupt.



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Luis Gutierrez: And now, they just kind of stopped and are being questioned by police officer in this country by you know.



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Luis Gutierrez: I want to us we’re you know we’re now police officers and we stop someone and now, but what what’s going on there when do you know what’s happening.



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Luis Gutierrez: Are you aware of it, or you have some you know thought thought process with regards to that what that person might expect, and how that person might react.



00:25:34.890 –> 00:25:41.370

Luis Gutierrez: So those are the things you have to consider along the way, and i’m going to.



00:25:43.500 –> 00:25:44.820

Luis Gutierrez: go into my PowerPoint.



00:25:49.710 –> 00:25:50.700

Luis Gutierrez: slides slide show.



00:25:56.040 –> 00:26:11.460

Luis Gutierrez: And God dive deeper into this with us right so there’s excuse you some food for thought on this idea i’m going to finish with it on this cultural diversity, now we have to have an understanding of that as police officers so.



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Luis Gutierrez: And i’m going to go into our our.



00:26:16.440 –> 00:26:27.930

Luis Gutierrez: Images of color images of crime as well to kind of break down some other terms and terminologies that we should be aware of as we’re making decisions as it relates to see up.



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Luis Gutierrez: So.



00:26:31.080 –> 00:26:32.190

Luis Gutierrez: Right now.



00:26:33.240 –> 00:26:44.100

Luis Gutierrez: I put myself down here at the bottom so right now kind of picture yourself stop what you’re doing right he says, listening to me picture yourself watching your favorite TV show.



00:26:45.210 –> 00:26:55.170

Luis Gutierrez: Okay, all of a sudden there’s breaking news, the news flash and they interrupt your show to go to live coverage of a vehicle pursuit.



00:26:56.580 –> 00:27:05.610

Luis Gutierrez: How many times have we seen that right vehicle pursue the camera follows a vehicle that’s being pursued for several miles to high speed on the freeway.



00:27:06.450 –> 00:27:18.030

Luis Gutierrez: And you’re watching this right the reporter states that he is unsure why the vehicle is being chased better heard the officer say something about a robbery, possibly over the radio.



00:27:19.440 –> 00:27:25.620

Luis Gutierrez: Okay, do you have this in your mind you know the scenario, if I can because i’ve had that happen before.



00:27:26.280 –> 00:27:42.570

Luis Gutierrez: you’re watching channel nine news and all of a sudden there’s a there’s a pursuit going on and everybody wants to see what happens at the end, right after a few moments, the vehicle exits the freeway and turns into a residential neighborhood and alone suspect jumps out.



00:27:44.640 –> 00:27:50.490

Luis Gutierrez: In this video i’m going to show you it’s actually two but pay attention to the driver side person comes out right.



00:27:51.570 –> 00:27:52.560

Luis Gutierrez: And begins to run.



00:27:53.580 –> 00:27:54.120

Luis Gutierrez: Okay.



00:27:55.290 –> 00:27:56.700

Luis Gutierrez: So, think about that for a minute.



00:27:59.610 –> 00:28:04.110

Luis Gutierrez: So as you’re thinking this through describe a suspect that you see in your head.



00:28:06.300 –> 00:28:19.560

Luis Gutierrez: With the scenario I just got you’re watching TV, all of a sudden, you have breaking news, you see your personal we’ve seen a whole bunch of these probably right this happens, quite a bit describe the suspect that you have in your head, what do you see the suspect looking like.



00:28:21.450 –> 00:28:22.950

Luis Gutierrez: i’m trying to have an image of that.



00:28:24.630 –> 00:28:31.890

Luis Gutierrez: Is the subject suspect a meal is a suspect female older younger.



00:28:33.240 –> 00:28:41.850

Luis Gutierrez: What do you think I mean classroom we wouldn’t be discussing that right, be a lot more fun than it is just me recording a zoom but we’ll get through it.



00:28:43.530 –> 00:28:44.610

Luis Gutierrez: Black brown white.



00:28:46.110 –> 00:28:49.740

Luis Gutierrez: Some other the city race.



00:28:52.050 –> 00:28:52.440

Luis Gutierrez: Okay.



00:28:53.940 –> 00:29:02.940

Luis Gutierrez: Do you think that your discussion in your head that you’ve had up to now would change if I told you that hey this incident took place in Los Angeles.



00:29:05.430 –> 00:29:08.940

Luis Gutierrez: Or if I told you took place in orange county in mission viejo.



00:29:10.830 –> 00:29:14.220

Luis Gutierrez: Where the crime wasn’t a robbery, but it was a drive by shooting.



00:29:15.960 –> 00:29:19.260

Luis Gutierrez: Or, I told you, as a child molester or some type of serial killer.



00:29:21.840 –> 00:29:27.870

Luis Gutierrez: Why do you think you perceive that picture for your suspect, you know you, you certainly had it in the lineage.



00:29:29.730 –> 00:29:34.140

Luis Gutierrez: of crime, an image of what you.



00:29:35.760 –> 00:29:44.010

Luis Gutierrez: What you thought the suspect would be like when that person exit the vehicle and do you think that was influenced.



00:29:45.480 –> 00:29:53.550

Luis Gutierrez: Maybe by the media was there any immediate influence to your picture of your suspect any personal experiences that you’re bringing in.



00:29:55.380 –> 00:29:59.850

Luis Gutierrez: Any stereotypes rule over so we’ll be going over stereotypes later.



00:30:01.560 –> 00:30:02.190

Luis Gutierrez: All the above.



00:30:03.540 –> 00:30:08.790

Luis Gutierrez: Any others any other things that you could think of you know we talking like that in classroom time.



00:30:10.110 –> 00:30:18.240

Luis Gutierrez: So i’m going to stop sharing i’m going to try to do this with the with the YouTube instead, so it might be a little easier better for us.



00:30:22.020 –> 00:30:34.800

Luis Gutierrez: Go like that, and if there’s a problem with the with the audio it’s sometimes there is, I attach this video that you can hear what’s going on in your modules as well, so you can look at it later in case you can’t hear it.



00:32:12.150 –> 00:32:15.480

Luis Gutierrez: Okay, so i’m going to stop sharing go back.



00:32:16.770 –> 00:32:19.410

Luis Gutierrez: To my hotel you saw that hopefully that was.



00:32:20.430 –> 00:32:21.870

Luis Gutierrez: You got to see the.



00:32:23.130 –> 00:32:26.760

Luis Gutierrez: You were able to hear it as well, so.



00:32:30.930 –> 00:32:33.150

Luis Gutierrez: let’s see if I can minimize that.



00:32:34.320 –> 00:32:36.930

Luis Gutierrez: and stop sharing.



00:32:38.190 –> 00:32:40.170

Luis Gutierrez: let’s go to that.



00:32:50.400 –> 00:32:51.930

Luis Gutierrez: i’m hoping that you can see.



00:33:03.060 –> 00:33:04.980

Luis Gutierrez: i’m hoping that you can see.



00:33:07.260 –> 00:33:10.170

Luis Gutierrez: it’s not allowing me to do that, why is that doing that.



00:33:16.710 –> 00:33:18.450

Luis Gutierrez: Okay, so we’re back on.



00:33:20.070 –> 00:33:23.100

Luis Gutierrez: I think that I was on their seat stop sharing.



00:33:24.570 –> 00:33:28.890

Luis Gutierrez: Okay, let me get back on again goodness Okay, here we go.



00:33:30.630 –> 00:33:31.920

Luis Gutierrez: Okay, so we should be back on.



00:33:34.800 –> 00:33:35.880

Luis Gutierrez: So.



00:33:38.310 –> 00:33:40.470

Luis Gutierrez: yeah okay sorry about that.



00:33:42.870 –> 00:33:52.320

Luis Gutierrez: So, you had the question I asked you earlier, which was to put in mind what the person would look like that did it did you guess that it was a.



00:33:53.220 –> 00:34:04.380

Luis Gutierrez: Female that was driving the car over 100 miles an hour crashes, that the even the reporter who’s who is this who’s on top bows and in the helicopter.



00:34:04.740 –> 00:34:14.700

Luis Gutierrez: is saying hey this guy this guy you know he’s even assuming that it’s a male and then all sudden it’s a female and she’s kind of sliding over the driver side.



00:34:15.120 –> 00:34:25.560

Luis Gutierrez: And then she ends up a match either the stations are running now right, so it goes contrary to you know what it is that you typically would would imagine.



00:34:26.070 –> 00:34:43.140

Luis Gutierrez: So this video is just an example of how society perceives crime and criminals right by linking images of color which images of crime, the stereotypes underlying media reporting on crime and criminality, become more apparent.



00:34:44.730 –> 00:34:53.700

Luis Gutierrez: Their main books on race and crime, and you know this is 1.1 of my favorites is, of course, the one i’m using to speak to you about today.



00:34:54.210 –> 00:34:59.820

Luis Gutierrez: But most focus on just one or two racial you know black brown white, you know that type of thing.



00:35:00.750 –> 00:35:17.490

Luis Gutierrez: it’s important to understand where these perceptions come from in order to overcome them, so we need to really kind of break it down into more of a cultural diversity type of ideas Okay, and just you know racial and ethnic groups and that’s it.



00:35:18.900 –> 00:35:21.510

Luis Gutierrez: And we kind of over simplify that a little bit too much.



00:35:24.570 –> 00:35:36.150

Luis Gutierrez: So so let’s talk about some terms I don’t want you to kind of wrap around your head a little bit and one of them is this word stereotype people throw away.



00:35:36.840 –> 00:35:46.980

Luis Gutierrez: throw away people throw out words like stereotype and prejudice and biases and racism, and all these things without really understanding what they’re about.



00:35:48.660 –> 00:35:57.420

Luis Gutierrez: So a stereotype is a preconceived or oversimplified generalization Bobby negative or positive beliefs about another group.



00:35:58.290 –> 00:36:07.800

Luis Gutierrez: So you can some can be positive, you know some could be negative, but they can be based on nationality, race, ethnicity gender.



00:36:08.400 –> 00:36:22.290

Luis Gutierrez: Sexual orientation, age, social economic status physical ability we team, we have a preconceived notion or improper over simplified generalization of someone in these categories.



00:36:23.400 –> 00:36:24.900

Luis Gutierrez: You can be stereotyping them.



00:36:25.950 –> 00:36:27.150

Luis Gutierrez: Right okay.



00:36:32.040 –> 00:36:39.210

Luis Gutierrez: stereotyping is a natural human tendency where we’re human beings, we have a tendency to quickly you know.



00:36:40.260 –> 00:36:41.280

Luis Gutierrez: Care you know.



00:36:43.380 –> 00:36:52.290

Luis Gutierrez: Look at someone and have these preconceived ideas along the way when it gets dangerous.



00:36:53.310 –> 00:36:59.640

Luis Gutierrez: Is you know when we start to make assumptions in group all Members.



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Luis Gutierrez: Of.



00:37:02.370 –> 00:37:15.960

Luis Gutierrez: of a certain group into this, you know into this procession that they have specific behavioral traits and such Okay, so the dangerous part comes in reserved a.



00:37:17.610 –> 00:37:19.980

Luis Gutierrez: group everyone into one lump.



00:37:27.480 –> 00:37:42.750

Luis Gutierrez: ethnocentric is an attitude of seen and judging other culture, cultural or ethnic groups from the perspective of your own culture right, you know that my culture, my group is superior to yours.



00:37:44.400 –> 00:37:46.170

Luis Gutierrez: Okay, so it’s a difference in math.



00:37:48.810 –> 00:37:59.940

Luis Gutierrez: And this me and race, so in this city is shared characteristics or a shared culture within your nationality your religion or your race.



00:38:00.540 –> 00:38:15.570

Luis Gutierrez: We talked about that word this city that’s nationality, race, religion and race, the shared characteristics or or and shared culture that we have with that when you’re talking about race is truly an anthem.



00:38:17.850 –> 00:38:27.390

Luis Gutierrez: term that’s based on physical traits all right it’s truly on physical traits and what you look like to others right.



00:38:28.980 –> 00:38:41.670

Luis Gutierrez: So racism is that social practice whether implicit or explicit that attributes merits or allocates values to members of racial categories based solely.



00:38:42.900 –> 00:38:45.420

Luis Gutierrez: Because of their race and their outward appearance.



00:38:46.470 –> 00:38:53.520

Luis Gutierrez: And the believe that one races inherently superior to the other be there physically intelligently or culturally.



00:38:54.600 –> 00:39:04.230

Luis Gutierrez: We talked about that explicitly, meaning that you’re acting on it’s something that’s over an implicit, meaning that you have the subconscious thoughts about you know.



00:39:05.460 –> 00:39:10.080

Luis Gutierrez: This categorize group and solely based on their appearance.



00:39:11.280 –> 00:39:23.850

Luis Gutierrez: Okay, take a look at that prejudice is prejudgment or a point of view about a person or group of people that is usually formed before you before facts are known to you.



00:39:25.530 –> 00:39:31.560

Luis Gutierrez: Right, you have this pre judgment and it’s it can be you know we have prejudices and we have.



00:39:32.610 –> 00:39:40.110

Luis Gutierrez: Our own thoughts and it can be a private thing the danger with prejudices, is that you then you.



00:39:41.250 –> 00:40:01.530

Luis Gutierrez: can act on those in a native way and then that could lead to what we call discrimination and we’ll talk about that in a minute, but prejudices are learned attitudes based on misconceptions and misunderstandings and kind of these inflexible generalizations and could also be subconscious.



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Luis Gutierrez: Prejudice attitude should not be tolerated any police agency or community.



00:40:08.940 –> 00:40:14.310

Luis Gutierrez: prejudiced as unchecked or unchallenged may lead to the development of racism.



00:40:15.870 –> 00:40:19.800

Luis Gutierrez: Okay, so there’s a difference and all that and i’m going to provide all those terms for you as well.



00:40:21.210 –> 00:40:28.170

Luis Gutierrez: So if it’s this unchecked or unchallenged, and you do that, within your your thought process.



00:40:31.290 –> 00:40:45.990

Luis Gutierrez: Discrimination so prejudice is a thought a private thought it’s not a violation of the law, you can be prejudice and your mind about certain things right, but when you act on that prejudice.



00:40:47.190 –> 00:40:48.960

Luis Gutierrez: Right a prejudice thought.



00:40:50.160 –> 00:41:07.110

Luis Gutierrez: And action or behavior that’s prompted are based on prejudice thought right that includes now differential treatment of someone based upon unsubstantiated or unfair characterization now that takes it to discrimination.



00:41:08.460 –> 00:41:17.220

Luis Gutierrez: When you start to discriminate that in within the law enforcement Community you’re talking about racial profiling and such that could escalate to those things.



00:41:21.120 –> 00:41:28.710

Luis Gutierrez: So, just a quick review, you know, on those four items stereotype is a pre conceived.



00:41:30.180 –> 00:41:46.440

Luis Gutierrez: generalization that you can have you stereotype someone can be negative or positive someone’s so centric has that it has an attitude of seen in judging others other cultures through your own lens of your own culture.



00:41:48.480 –> 00:41:59.670

Luis Gutierrez: If your prejudice your have a prejudgment or point of view about a person or group that’s usually formed before he really know all the facts, the ever prejudice towards someone.



00:42:01.560 –> 00:42:09.120

Luis Gutierrez: Of course discrimination is now the Act or the action or behavior that is prompted by your prejudice thought.



00:42:11.220 –> 00:42:15.720

Luis Gutierrez: So those are all things that we deal with with regards to individuals.



00:42:17.400 –> 00:42:22.320

Luis Gutierrez: That you’re constantly working with working for you know.



00:42:23.670 –> 00:42:33.840

Luis Gutierrez: Maybe there’s a conflict, all these things are coming into play and you’re a police officer right, and now you.



00:42:35.130 –> 00:42:44.550

Luis Gutierrez: You know, can there are some issues are going to happen if these things don’t come into check right so prejudicial discriminatory attitudes and law enforcement.



00:42:45.300 –> 00:42:59.370

Luis Gutierrez: and lead to lack of trust undermine authorities adverse meeting media attention lack of Community trust or negative attitude towards the department and dangerous escalations of situations.



00:43:00.900 –> 00:43:18.990

Luis Gutierrez: Okay, so when you, you may have a prejudices in your in your mind you start to act on those now is discrimination discrimination against certain group or culture, cultural group now you’re looking at these possible things happening along the way.



00:43:21.480 –> 00:43:24.180

Luis Gutierrez: And really gets down to now this cultural diversity.



00:43:25.290 –> 00:43:33.330

Luis Gutierrez: Right, the representation of individuals within distinctly different groups affiliate affiliations, with the social system.



00:43:34.890 –> 00:43:37.620

Luis Gutierrez: And you need to be able to recognize what that looks like.



00:43:38.670 –> 00:43:51.990

Luis Gutierrez: Right, the customers and beliefs social forms material traits of racial, religious or social groups beliefs values ways of thinking, customs and traditions.



00:43:52.740 –> 00:44:07.680

Luis Gutierrez: Right and that happened within you know orange county when, in the early 1980s late 70s orange county had a big influx of Vietnam refugees from the Vietnam War.



00:44:08.700 –> 00:44:24.300

Luis Gutierrez: And they came to orange county Have you ever been one of the best foods around is the going over to little Saigon in Westminster and garden grove and that Community was really the mainstay of where you, you find people from Vietnam.



00:44:25.800 –> 00:44:45.600

Luis Gutierrez: And that was a whole different customs and traditions and and ways of thinking from their Communist country that they’re coming from here and there, distrust possibly or their beliefs of what police and a lot of forest is like and now they’re interacting with such.



00:44:46.920 –> 00:44:52.230

Luis Gutierrez: right that can be it can be difficult, on both for the Community and for the police.



00:44:54.990 –> 00:45:07.410

Luis Gutierrez: Culture has learned and pass on from one generation to another, it can be broad like geographically or national origin, so I mentioned, or it could be more narrow family unit neighborhood or organization.



00:45:08.430 –> 00:45:20.520

Luis Gutierrez: Cultural group a group, a group of individuals who collectively share a number of common social, cultural characteristics include gender, race, physical disabilities professions and.



00:45:21.690 –> 00:45:26.400

Luis Gutierrez: and sexual orientation do do police officers have a cultural group.



00:45:29.430 –> 00:45:36.090

Luis Gutierrez: A group of individuals who collectively share any number of common social, cultural characteristics, including your profession.



00:45:37.680 –> 00:45:38.160

Luis Gutierrez: Right.



00:45:39.720 –> 00:45:42.810

Luis Gutierrez: So please have their own police culture, cultural.



00:45:44.610 –> 00:45:45.030

Luis Gutierrez: Group.



00:45:47.310 –> 00:45:48.630

Luis Gutierrez: And how does that play in.



00:45:50.010 –> 00:46:00.690

Luis Gutierrez: You know, one of the things that I can recall it is that was always beneficial for me as a as a police officer over the years, is that I also.



00:46:01.830 –> 00:46:09.540

Luis Gutierrez: tried to have friends who weren’t hops into it, you know that I was going to socialize and have interactions with people that were not just simply.



00:46:10.770 –> 00:46:19.740

Luis Gutierrez: You know, police officers, you know of course you I have people around you that are like minded or or very similar in that sense right in a cultural group but.



00:46:20.730 –> 00:46:29.520

Luis Gutierrez: At the same time it’s good to get different perspectives different ideas different things from others that are not necessarily within your profession.



00:46:32.970 –> 00:46:44.670

Luis Gutierrez: Recognizing cultural diversity, common cultural elements is history in language you know if you get around police officers within their own cultural group they start talking code talk.



00:46:45.420 –> 00:47:01.890

Luis Gutierrez: yeah i’m going to attend 19 1045 to do you think all these codes are you code for are you, you know how many go to could only go to seven code seven because when you have lunch and this type of you know of language and communication happens within your own cultural group.



00:47:03.930 –> 00:47:04.350

Luis Gutierrez: Okay.



00:47:06.180 –> 00:47:16.140

Luis Gutierrez: cultural identity, we talked about identity, and what that looks like, in particular, sometimes with gains King environment or a certain cultures that really have this pride of roots.



00:47:16.740 –> 00:47:23.670

Luis Gutierrez: there’s a sense of security oka comfort zone that happens, or survival skills and how they solve their own problems.



00:47:24.930 –> 00:47:25.290

Luis Gutierrez: Okay.



00:47:27.690 –> 00:47:33.990

Luis Gutierrez: So why is vocal diversity important bit right when you recognize it helps you recognize patterns of behavior.



00:47:34.710 –> 00:47:45.720

Luis Gutierrez: influence behavior it builds effective relationships with communities, when you are aware of and recognize cultural diversity within your community.



00:47:46.380 –> 00:47:56.970

Luis Gutierrez: And as a Community also recognizes that with their police department, it does build effective relationships within the Community personal, professional organizational.



00:47:58.530 –> 00:47:58.890

Luis Gutierrez: Okay.



00:48:00.420 –> 00:48:09.930

Luis Gutierrez: Recognizing cultural diversity terms there’s other there as long as things are enforced, as far as you know, processing or learning a new culture culture.



00:48:10.500 –> 00:48:22.230

Luis Gutierrez: You know, or a simulation of such those things you know cat kind of happened organically and that’s probably the best way then to just being you know force fed something.



00:48:23.400 –> 00:48:36.870

Luis Gutierrez: When you are when it when it comes at a at a in a way that is authentic within the Community and the police department that really is is is has better results.



00:48:39.060 –> 00:48:50.310

Luis Gutierrez: This state our local area California orange county and such la county San Diego you know it’s has had a multicultural background in history.



00:48:51.150 –> 00:49:09.450

Luis Gutierrez: And we’ve slowly i’ve learned those new cultures and assimilated with each other, those are indigenous indigenous Americans, the Spanish colonization and influence we have the immigrant immigrants that we’ve had coming into this area as well it’s all been.



00:49:11.970 –> 00:49:14.970

Luis Gutierrez: learned and simulated along the way.



00:49:20.100 –> 00:49:30.090

Luis Gutierrez: Recognizing cultural diversity effects of cultural of cultures in on law enforcement, so you know intervene and conflicts between cultural groups.



00:49:30.750 –> 00:49:42.870

Luis Gutierrez: Sure, if you have different neighborhoods that have different cultural backgrounds developing skills communicate with new and existing groups like I mentioned, you know.



00:49:43.530 –> 00:49:57.150

Luis Gutierrez: In the early and late 70s early 80s with with our refugees from Vietnam and how the garden grow and Westminster police departments and cities were able to develop new skills with that.



00:49:58.860 –> 00:50:01.170

Luis Gutierrez: cultivate expand relationships within the Community.



00:50:02.880 –> 00:50:04.410

Luis Gutierrez: become integrated with the Community.



00:50:06.720 –> 00:50:07.350

Luis Gutierrez: So.



00:50:08.760 –> 00:50:14.310

Luis Gutierrez: With all that information i’ve given you on just the idea of this.



00:50:16.710 –> 00:50:19.590

Luis Gutierrez: And the importance of cultural diversity.



00:50:20.790 –> 00:50:32.880

Luis Gutierrez: And, in particular, you know for officers to have and seek out and be training in cultural competencies and skills and such you know it brings us back to kind of what.



00:50:34.020 –> 00:50:36.210

Luis Gutierrez: What our topic is of community policing.



00:50:37.260 –> 00:50:59.850

Luis Gutierrez: You know, we have had we’ve tried, a lot of things in this country and in our profession to ultimately reach the goals that you’re looking for right and those goals are to reduce crime that’s obvious but ultimately it’s to improve the quality of life, to improve the quality of life and.



00:51:02.430 –> 00:51:03.330

Luis Gutierrez: We have done.



00:51:04.950 –> 00:51:09.390

Luis Gutierrez: And we do that through you know our politicians and legislation that we pass.



00:51:10.650 –> 00:51:21.660

Luis Gutierrez: You know, through our police officers, through our prosecutors Defense attorneys judges a case law getting things right when we when we.



00:51:22.320 –> 00:51:32.430

Luis Gutierrez: mess up on on our on our investigations and such corrections and correctional institutions and the media, these are all stakeholders, if you will.



00:51:33.420 –> 00:51:45.090

Luis Gutierrez: And, and one of them, you know, is also that always seems to be the afterthought, is the Community, you know we put a lot of attention on this and we.



00:51:45.870 –> 00:51:56.970

Luis Gutierrez: kind of just forget about the Community part and how important that is to improving your quality of life, it doesn’t just all fall on on this group of stakeholders.



00:51:58.650 –> 00:52:04.590

Luis Gutierrez: And such so and we’ve done it there’s been some good some bad and suddenly ways that we’ve done it.



00:52:05.910 –> 00:52:17.760

Luis Gutierrez: In the administration of justice we’ve used technology you’ve heard that this year you’ve seen crime mapping and stories on hot spots that were you that were.



00:52:18.780 –> 00:52:27.180

Luis Gutierrez: That were type of strategies and such they’re used to reduce crime or to improve the quality of life.



00:52:28.230 –> 00:52:38.940

Luis Gutierrez: Sometimes that crime mapping in the way that artificial intelligence type of their intelligence policing type of of system can can then.



00:52:39.750 –> 00:52:48.390

Luis Gutierrez: You know, provide or result result of that can be some racial profiling in certain neighborhoods as you’re targeting certain areas.



00:52:48.810 –> 00:52:58.500

Luis Gutierrez: and flooding areas with police when maybe you don’t need that type of approach we talked about I don’t know we talked about prosecution 17 practices, but.



00:52:58.890 –> 00:53:06.450

Luis Gutierrez: that’s been a mess some times, where we you know, for example, in the 1980s we talked about crack cocaine and powdered cocaine and.



00:53:06.930 –> 00:53:15.960

Luis Gutierrez: The differences in sentencing and happens, you know crack cocaine be more of a street type of drug and how those were were.



00:53:16.470 –> 00:53:32.190

Luis Gutierrez: Were prosecuted differently and much higher sentencing then maybe the more wealthy powder cocaine type of violations right that’s things that have happened we’ve been tough on crime gotta be tough on crime right three strikes laws.



00:53:34.980 –> 00:53:35.940

Luis Gutierrez: Certainly put.



00:53:37.410 –> 00:53:51.960

Luis Gutierrez: It especially here in California, a tough on crime type of attitude and in the results of that right is we have over 2 million people incarcerated in this country, more than any other.



00:53:53.580 –> 00:53:59.310

Luis Gutierrez: country in the world and a lot of those are you know our minority groups that are.



00:54:01.680 –> 00:54:04.740

Luis Gutierrez: That are incarcerated at a higher rate.



00:54:06.330 –> 00:54:16.080

Luis Gutierrez: So you know we we we we do one thing to try to improve the quality of life, to reduce crime you put all these things in place.



00:54:16.740 –> 00:54:35.190

Luis Gutierrez: Talk about crime control how important it is to control crime, of course, at the same time we forget a little bit about the due process what’s more important to do processes that are in place to our Constitution fourth, fifth sixth eighth 14th amendment.



00:54:37.140 –> 00:54:39.660

Luis Gutierrez: Those are all search, you know search and seizure.



00:54:41.220 –> 00:54:41.640

Luis Gutierrez: You know.



00:54:42.870 –> 00:54:54.180

Luis Gutierrez: due process right to counsel self recrimination cruel and unusual punishment or equal call clause quality clause and the 14th amendment all those right.



00:54:55.560 –> 00:55:00.300

Luis Gutierrez: it’s all coming to play versus hey let’s be sure there’s.



00:55:02.220 –> 00:55:13.800

Luis Gutierrez: You know, people are put in jail and that we have crime control So these are all things that you know as we talked about goals and things that we’re that we’re trying to do we put these things in place.



00:55:14.580 –> 00:55:24.630

Luis Gutierrez: We need to also with regards to raising the criminal justice policies, we need to also consider what this course is has been about right.



00:55:26.100 –> 00:55:33.060

Luis Gutierrez: legitimacy in police work the trust that’s needed public trust the.



00:55:35.010 –> 00:55:48.060

Luis Gutierrez: The consideration of cultural universities and having core competencies and available to officers that are able to to work with other cultures along or on along different lines.



00:55:51.990 –> 00:55:53.460

Luis Gutierrez: Okay Why am I not going here.



00:55:55.380 –> 00:55:59.310

Luis Gutierrez: So, with all that stuff in mind all these things I throw at you.



00:56:00.750 –> 00:56:18.000

Luis Gutierrez: I want you to do your assignment for today is a discussion again or 10 points, and you know put these things in your in your mind as you’re considering, you know as we get close to the end here, discuss what the primary goal the criminal justice system should be.



00:56:20.190 –> 00:56:26.880

Luis Gutierrez: right to control crime to true justice or both, why any other ideas.



00:56:28.080 –> 00:56:42.480

Luis Gutierrez: Right any other ideas that you have and then explain how this opinion may get influenced by factors such as age, gender, sex, race, ethnicity economic situation, a country you’re born in.



00:56:43.620 –> 00:56:52.170

Luis Gutierrez: And then, how does corp relate to this topic this topic of cultural diversity, this topic of implicit biases this topic of of.



00:56:53.370 –> 00:56:56.940

Luis Gutierrez: of assuring our goals to improve the quality of life.



00:56:57.960 –> 00:57:04.740

Luis Gutierrez: How did it all, how did all that come into play it’s a good practice for you for your final because that’s really what it’s going to be about.



00:57:05.280 –> 00:57:17.100

Luis Gutierrez: Is I want you to kind of put as a capstone everything that you’ve had into this course is our thinking of Okay, what should be our primary goal, how should we go about it.



00:57:18.330 –> 00:57:31.260

Luis Gutierrez: Alright, so that’s what all I got for you, I know it’s a lot So hopefully you know just this is a lot of work it’s just simply, this is the it was a lot of talking so.



00:57:32.280 –> 00:57:44.070

Luis Gutierrez: i’m going to stop there, get your stuff in and and then watch those videos get some feedback on what kalia does how it helps and also.



00:57:45.300 –> 00:57:46.230

Luis Gutierrez: Take a look at.



00:57:47.730 –> 00:57:54.540

Luis Gutierrez: You know, go back and refresh yourself with the PowerPoint and just some of the notes i’ve given you as well okay all right thanks take care.


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